wars are not conversations

okay, so markets are conversations. and politics are conversations too. but wars? wars are not conversations. conversations involve multiple parties talking and listening. this happens in functional markets. this happens (though less often) in functional politics. this does not happen in wars. no one listens in a war. wars are shouting matches. when a market or conversation is over, you've gained something (money, goods, services, information). when a war or shouting match is over, you've lost something (time, money, life).

but wars can be symbiotic
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cancer is symbiotic. cancer is not a conversation. the cancer doesn't care what messages your body is sending it. neither side in a war cares what messages the other side is sending.

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