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Comment by tom

Wed, 07 Dec 2005 18:15:42 -0800

Flames in 3.. 2... 1..

Comment by

Wed, 07 Dec 2005 19:55:57 -0800

Stop complaining. It was the only post you made that got more than 4 comments.

Comment by Scott Reynen

Wed, 07 Dec 2005 20:38:50 -0800

Surprisingly, tom, the two responses I've seen so far seem to reasonably agree with my agreeable points and disagree with my apparently unfair targetting of John. Lessons learned all around.

Comment by yb detsoP

Wed, 07 Dec 2005 20:45:27 -0800

You must not be following closely enough. John Wiseman is one of the few Lisp guys being reasonable about the whole thing. He realizes that the current Lisp offerings need help and is trying to open the eyes of his fellow Lispers--kudos to him for actually paying attention.

All these other goofballs duping Reddit in Lisp (what problem are they solving?) are providing a tragic comedy of errors for the rest of us.

Comment by Slava Pestov

Wed, 07 Dec 2005 20:46:40 -0800

By provoking unnecessarily emotional defenses of Scott Michael Reynen across the web, John is causing otherwise neutral people like myself to actively avoid Scott Michael Reynen, because he comes off as an irrational troll. I know there are signs of intelligent life in Scott Michael Reynen, but John's reposts distort people's actual views through half-truths and re-emphasis, and the result makes Scott Michael Reynen look like a ridiculous person, who says things that mean nothing at all.

I'm not a member of the Lisp community, but based on your love of PHP expressed in your weblog, I think you're a stupid teenager who should get a real job instead of entertaining yourself by posting junk.

Comment by bill a

Wed, 07 Dec 2005 21:23:49 -0800

How goofy. A "tragic comedy of errors"? My friend, the concept of rewriting Reddit only came up last night. Already there is a working implementation. How much crack do you have to smoke to call that a "tragic comedy of errors"? I'm guessing the answer is somewhere in the neighborhood of 8 metric tons.

I think the frustration in the Lisp community over the loss of Reddit as a Common Lisp application is a good thing. Some of the rabblerousing going on at the Reddit blog probably doesn't make us look good, but it's good to see the community united to accomplish this goal.

One of the goals of this project is to figure out what, in particular, keeps Lisp from being as practical as any other language. I think this project has the potential to improve the state of Lisp, and I plan to help contribute as soon as school calms down a bit.

Also, blaming John Wiseman for this is crazy. You made uninformed comments about Lisp, and so you got a lot of (somewhat angry) posts on your weblog. Big frigging deal. It doesn't really justify these crazy generalizations and goofy headlines - "Community Influences Language Adoption" (really?), "News is soon not going to be printed in newspapers! I know this because stocks aren't printed in papers anymore!" and on and on and on and dreadfully on.

Comment by

Wed, 07 Dec 2005 21:39:28 -0800

"As I was thinking about this, I think I came up with a pretty good summary of what I mean when I call myself existentialist: All choices in life should be made between (at least) two courses of action."

OK, you're immediately disqualified from being allowed to make any statements ever again. Any statements. Of any kind.

Comment by Scott Reynen

Wed, 07 Dec 2005 22:10:20 -0800

detsoP, see my comment prior to yours in which I acknowledged unfarily targetting John. Everyone else: um ... I have no idea what you're talking about.